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Alternative Lives R Available's avatar

Good analysis Richard, thank you. There is nothing I disagree with, and I think the picture by 2035, just 10 years hence, will be both much clearer and drastically different from the mainstream picture today, much along the lines of your higher projections.

My own view is that the problem now is runaway methane emissions, from tundra and permafrost in the short term, and coastal clathrates thereafter. As you say, those are already not in our control and we can only record the numbers as they happen.

I suspect your estimates of the reduction in populations may be too moderate, and that climate change, food shortages, mass migration, wars and border conflicts, increasing diseases and the fall in birth rates, will collapse many populations. If you consider that generally a growth curve is more gentle than a collapse curve, and that the population has risen from 2.4billion to 8 billion in my single lifetime, then I suspect the collapse will be very fast.

Unfortunately the methane situation above means that a collapse in human population may reduce CO2 emissions, but that will no longer much affect climate outcomes that will increasingly be driven by methane.

My one consolation here in Europe is that AMOC collapse seems increasingly imminent and that may cool northern Europe, at least sufficiently to reduce coastal land temperatures. I have in fact positioned myself on that coast 6 years ago on that basis. Of course the differences between higher land temperatures and colder sea temperatures will create the conditions for very violent storms, not dissimilar to the catastrophic Valencia flash flooding a couple of weeks ago. But it was the best I could think of at the time, and I haven't come up with a better plan yet.

Lastly, I note your comments about your involvement in 'special interest' groups, particularly in America. I have assumed that Project 2025 is designed to protect those megarich Americans in Fortress America, with ruthlessness towards the existing population and civilisation, and indeed the rest of the world. Trump's plans to collapse the current economy to cement control of American assets, technology and military will have the incidental effect of collapsing economic activity, and hence CO2 emissions from the World's major producer. That reduction in economic activity will also reduce CO2 emissions from countries that export to America, notably China, and even reduce air travel, etc. However it will leave most Americans in a most desperate and dangerous situation - not a good place to be for the foreseeable future!

Thanks again for your knowledgable and comprehensive analysis. I hope many more people read it and better understand what is about to happen to them.

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Greeley Miklashek, MD's avatar

A very confusing article, Richard. I'm just a simple old physician with a degree in chemistry from Wittenberg, '67, and a professional lifetime in medicine/psychiatry/stress research/addiction medicine. But when I discovered C3S (EU) recently, and read that 1.2 trillion tons of global ice were melting annually, 3.3 billion daily last summer, I started reading everything I could get my hands on about our production of heat energy, the equivalent of 20 Hiroshima nuclear bomb blasts PER SECOND (Eliot Jacobson), where one pound of ice absorbs 144 BTUs as it melts. And, recently, I read their June 5, 2024 article "The Hottest May on record spurs call for climate action", in which they found "the global average temperature for the last 12 months (June 2023-MaY 2024) IS THE HIGHEST ON RECORD, AT 0.75 degC above the 1991-2020 average...". Simple math gives a 0.214 degC annual ave. temp increase for that 3.5 yr. period and may portend a 1 degC increase EVERY FIVE YEARS. So, all of your "moderate" predictions are bogus and a child born today might see a 6 degC world on his/her 23rd BD. Little wonder that PEW Survey found that 47% of Americans 18-50 are choosing NOT to reproduce, ever. C3S, also, reports that 2/3rds of the 220,000 glaciers may melt by 2,100. CO2 remains in the atmosphere for 100 yrs. and holds 20 times the heat energy that water vapor holds, even though 1 trillion tons of water vapor are evaporating from the surface daily, but remains only 10-14 days before falling back as record setting rains, floods, etc.

Some old gal in a seminar at Marietta College recently sarcastically called me her "data guy" when I kept interrupting to correct her 20 yo data on the environmental collapse we are well into. I guess that makes me a devotee of hard science, and i can live with that. The administration invited me not to return to the college. I can live with that, too. But, I appreciate your efforts and those of a handful of us truth tellers willing to attempt to tell anyone who'll listen that we have run out of time and our climate is collapsing. Mother Nature and God almighty are about to make a damn fool out of Our newly re-elected Mad King (wannabe) Donald, and there will be a chorus of us yelling "We told you so!". Have a blessed evening, Gregg

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