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Dirk Dunning's avatar

Your point on the spectrum that you label "Crim" might better be labelled "Realists", or more accurately "Hopeful optimists".

We passed Apocalyptic two decades ago. I am pretty sure we passed the point of no return back before Carter was elected President. And I believe the sign post back then said something about last exit before the mass extinction, as well as - next stop 'the end of everything you know'.

The atmosphere and the oceans are continuing to destabilize.

In the atmosphere, the loss of the bulk of the thermal driving force at the north pole with the melted ice, combined with the overheated oceans and equator, have reduced the strength of the polar vortex (the northern jet) and the main jet stream at the Hadley-Ferrell junction. As a result, we are having massive excursions of heat moving north and cold moving south.

This peaks with the thermodynamic breakdown of the Earth's heat engine, and the chaotic and rapid shift to a unicellular atmospheric circulation. With that not only do we have weather chaos, we also have loss of the rain bands at 45 north. That leads to loss of agriculture.

Funny thing, people are addicted to eating. When they go without food for months at a time, they tend to become peckish snd grumpy.

Plus they have this tremendous addiction to water. Take that away and the whining just gets obnoxious.

Combine this with the collapse of the AMOC and the Pacific oscillation, and things get a bit concerning.

Large anoxic zones and vortexes develop in the oceans and at coastal margins and shorelines. Then fishermen get annoyed when the oceans die like that and it bites into their profit margins,

The folks living on the coasts won't be very pleasant either, what with all their grumbling about rotten eggs as the oceans die and rot, and the purple bacteria produce prodigious quantities of hydrogen sulfide rather than oxygen. They also get really upset about the whale carcasses littering the beach.

Your ever so generous allowance of 12 years before things get seriously troubled is a bit annoying. That is sooner than my expected lifespan expires. I was planning on a graceful exit before the excrement encountered the rotating air mover.

Oh well. Maybe the pandemic-that-shall-not-be-named may aid us.Cough. Cough. It's just a cold.

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Ric Vaughn's avatar

We're all gonna die!!!!

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